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PostSubject: Re: General Discussion / OOC / Archived   General Discussion / OOC / Archived - Page 11 EmptyWed Jul 06, 2011 12:57 am

Yes Sooth, he did roll a good roll, but if I can transform then I will be able to move faster then the spell can travel, thus having a chance of dodging it.
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PostSubject: Re: General Discussion / OOC / Archived   General Discussion / OOC / Archived - Page 11 EmptyWed Jul 06, 2011 1:08 am

Eri wrote:
Quote :
Evasion (conflict info)
Controlled by attributes and the situation (distance, orientation, attack type, etc).
Two fighters with the same DEX/MOV have about a 50/50 chance of evading each other.
Lower attributes (by 1 or more levels), reduces the chance of evading/dodging.

You missed something. So like if Rune dies then the site is good to go! b/c we all know he likes to die like once every few months.

Ah- sorry about missing that >_>; I haven't done combat yet- so I honestly don't remember the rules very well for it. I'm sure once I've done a couple of battles I'll get the hang of things for sure- but I'm always terrible about remembering things until I actually do them- hence why I have all of the questions for Shin all the time >_>;

But Mariko also has a point in the Transformation thingie. Even if you realized what Jack was doing as he was doing it, it would still take at least 1 second to initiate the transformation in yourself... wouldn't it? >_>; I think I may be thinking a bit too logically for a high fantasy/dystopian future/whatever setting this is... Sorry if I'm seeming antagonistic too- I'm more curious as to understanding how this is playing out and why as opposed to being like "GHAHAHA DIE RUNE, BURN IN HELL AHAHAHAHA!"
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PostSubject: Re: General Discussion / OOC / Archived   General Discussion / OOC / Archived - Page 11 EmptyWed Jul 06, 2011 1:11 am

That's alright I understand, I am still somewhat don't understand all the aspects. Yes, that brings up another point, when I worked up my counter post I was going on what is on his character bio, not what is on his character's bio thread, on his character bio there is no listed transformation, it is on his character bio thread, which I was under the impression that it isn't usable unless its on your bio.
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PostSubject: Re: General Discussion / OOC / Archived   General Discussion / OOC / Archived - Page 11 EmptyWed Jul 06, 2011 1:17 am

Hrm... but that wouldn't make much sense then- considering you've still purchased the abilities and whatnot. I mean, I'd be kind of pissed if I paid for my abilities and just didn't get to use them because I didn't change my bio... granted- it doesn't take too long to change, but still.

Also, this:

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PostSubject: Re: General Discussion / OOC / Archived   General Discussion / OOC / Archived - Page 11 EmptyWed Jul 06, 2011 4:28 am

Here to show you all my awesome map-making skills that I have used in the Deperate Times thread in Medius. Feel free to hire me for any and all commissions for shittily made maps using MS paint.

Gaze Upon My Fury and Weep:
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PostSubject: Re: General Discussion / OOC / Archived   General Discussion / OOC / Archived - Page 11 EmptyWed Jul 06, 2011 5:02 am

I jelly.
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PostSubject: Re: General Discussion / OOC / Archived   General Discussion / OOC / Archived - Page 11 EmptyWed Jul 06, 2011 8:10 am

cleaning permissions board
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I believe I shall quote a street creed from Shadowrun now in response to Kaz wanting the dragon:

"Watch your back. Shoot straight. Conserve Ammo. And never, ever cut a deal with a dragon."
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PostSubject: Re: General Discussion / OOC / Archived   General Discussion / OOC / Archived - Page 11 EmptyWed Jul 06, 2011 10:10 am

Soothesayer wrote:
I think I may be thinking a bit too logically for a high fantasy/dystopian future/whatever setting this is... Sorry if I'm seeming antagonistic too- I'm more curious as to understanding how this is playing out and why as opposed to being like "GHAHAHA DIE RUNE, BURN IN HELL AHAHAHAHA!"

We can have a practice fight if you want :3 since now we know each other IC.
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PostSubject: Re: General Discussion / OOC / Archived   General Discussion / OOC / Archived - Page 11 EmptyWed Jul 06, 2011 11:33 am

it's a trap! what a generous offer!
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PostSubject: Re: General Discussion / OOC / Archived   General Discussion / OOC / Archived - Page 11 EmptyWed Jul 06, 2011 12:11 pm

That sounds fine to me, Mariko. It's better than the alternative- which is brutal, uninhibited rape- it seems.
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PostSubject: Re: General Discussion / OOC / Archived   General Discussion / OOC / Archived - Page 11 EmptyWed Jul 06, 2011 12:34 pm

@Rune: You should have listened to me. My idea (which will remain a secret) was soooo much easier.
@Soothe: It probably is a trap... wait no... you have a female character, you're safe... relatively speaking.
@Shin: I HATE YOU! And you know EXACTLY why!
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PostSubject: Re: General Discussion / OOC / Archived   General Discussion / OOC / Archived - Page 11 EmptyWed Jul 06, 2011 12:50 pm

so much shin hate this morning

"love me don't reject me" -nas

edit : GREAT MAP sooth! want me to add map coordinates to it?? xD
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PostSubject: Re: General Discussion / OOC / Archived   General Discussion / OOC / Archived - Page 11 EmptyWed Jul 06, 2011 2:12 pm

Lol, stick with the trap part sooth, tread carefully
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PostSubject: Re: General Discussion / OOC / Archived   General Discussion / OOC / Archived - Page 11 EmptyWed Jul 06, 2011 2:19 pm

Why does nobody trust me? I'm as gentle as a lamb or a spring hare.
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PostSubject: Re: General Discussion / OOC / Archived   General Discussion / OOC / Archived - Page 11 EmptyWed Jul 06, 2011 2:22 pm

By the way, for anyone who wants a summary of the dragon quest

Spoiler:


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PostSubject: Re: General Discussion / OOC / Archived   General Discussion / OOC / Archived - Page 11 EmptyWed Jul 06, 2011 2:30 pm

a spring hare like this one maybe =p

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PostSubject: Re: General Discussion / OOC / Archived   General Discussion / OOC / Archived - Page 11 EmptyWed Jul 06, 2011 2:58 pm

Perhaps you have a point there

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Gwah ha ha ha ha....
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PostSubject: Re: General Discussion / OOC / Archived   General Discussion / OOC / Archived - Page 11 EmptyWed Jul 06, 2011 2:59 pm

lol Oh I like that
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PostSubject: Re: General Discussion / OOC / Archived   General Discussion / OOC / Archived - Page 11 EmptyWed Jul 06, 2011 3:06 pm

Nice xD
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PostSubject: Re: General Discussion / OOC / Archived   General Discussion / OOC / Archived - Page 11 EmptyWed Jul 06, 2011 3:13 pm

Lol, I love that comic, Iskra. It's a bit... lewd at times, but I quite enjoy it XD
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PostSubject: Re: General Discussion / OOC / Archived   General Discussion / OOC / Archived - Page 11 EmptyWed Jul 06, 2011 3:50 pm

lmao
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PostSubject: Re: General Discussion / OOC / Archived   General Discussion / OOC / Archived - Page 11 EmptyWed Jul 06, 2011 3:59 pm

My Shin hate is for a good reason!
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PostSubject: Re: General Discussion / OOC / Archived   General Discussion / OOC / Archived - Page 11 EmptyWed Jul 06, 2011 4:53 pm

@Lydeck: You're welcome. It actually didn't take long for me to put them into proper format. Thanks to you and Kitsu for reminding me to propose diverse buildings. I just think it adds more character and depth to the RP when you're doing a RP campaign and you're selecting which critical builds to attack/destroy or defend or when you're building up your village/nation and you're RPing the difficulties/trials of building up your commerce from your first set of shops to growing to have a sustained market and all that. Also, it makes ppl work for having a powerful, wealthy, bustling village/city.

P.S. There will be no love making! :p
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PostSubject: Re: General Discussion / OOC / Archived   General Discussion / OOC / Archived - Page 11 EmptyWed Jul 06, 2011 9:18 pm

To anyone with Flight capabilities in the Dragon thread-

Help please.

Sincerely, Alicia
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PostSubject: Re: General Discussion / OOC / Archived   General Discussion / OOC / Archived - Page 11 EmptyThu Jul 07, 2011 1:09 pm

Ah, yea, I'll post helping out after Shin posts what the dragon's doing around now.

Edit: Alicia, if you decide not to get flung off by the dragon, I'd like to remind you of your "second wind" ability.
Also, I have revive.
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PostSubject: Re: General Discussion / OOC / Archived   General Discussion / OOC / Archived - Page 11 EmptyThu Jul 07, 2011 1:41 pm

LittleMariko wrote:
Ah, yea, I'll post helping out after Shin posts what the dragon's doing around now.

Edit: Alicia, if you decide not to get flung off by the dragon, I'd like to remind you of your "second wind" ability.
Also, I have revive.

Revive would probably come in handy. Unless my gauntlet were seared to my weapon from the heat, I think it's pretty safe to assume I'd lose my grip and fall >_>;
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PostSubject: Re: General Discussion / OOC / Archived   General Discussion / OOC / Archived - Page 11 EmptyThu Jul 07, 2011 1:42 pm

Oh, alright X3 then post falling and I'll have Iskra stop what she's doing to halp.
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PostSubject: Re: General Discussion / OOC / Archived   General Discussion / OOC / Archived - Page 11 EmptyThu Jul 07, 2011 8:38 pm

someone wanna explain how a mastered technique can get a gamma?
not once. but twice?
gamma : Tech is unskilled, and/or fluffed..
yea...
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PostSubject: Re: General Discussion / OOC / Archived   General Discussion / OOC / Archived - Page 11 EmptyThu Jul 07, 2011 9:21 pm

Essentially if it's not perfected, it's going to suck. Roll system is too uncaring for lower levels imo.
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PostSubject: Re: General Discussion / OOC / Archived   General Discussion / OOC / Archived - Page 11 EmptyThu Jul 07, 2011 9:27 pm

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PostSubject: Re: General Discussion / OOC / Archived   General Discussion / OOC / Archived - Page 11 EmptyThu Jul 07, 2011 9:29 pm

2 fails out of 20 isn't too bad for unperfected.
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That's what I'm getting at.. something that isn't at perfected should not be able to get an Omega.. and something that is mastered or higher should be just that : MASTERED.

Here's the breakdown of how techs are supposed to work according to the site rules : These govern how well your character can perform a technique. Training your techniques make them work better and cost less stamina.

Yea.. work better?

The breakdown page also says :: Without training, you have a high chance of messing up a technique. Therefore, what's the point of training a technique if you can sitll highly botch it even when its mastered. Does this also mean that a perfected tech is capable of getting lost as well?

Jin, I'm doing your experiment for perfected to see if its the same way on that one with mastered at the same time.
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PostSubject: Re: General Discussion / OOC / Archived   General Discussion / OOC / Archived - Page 11 EmptyFri Jul 08, 2011 9:08 am

So... om sonething that should be mastered, I got 3 Passing, and 3 omega's...

and on the perfected.. I got all passing and 2 omegas.

Conclusion from experiment : Mastered is capable of having more omega's, but also of failing 14 times out of 20.
IMHO:
Mastered : Perfected
Alpha : 1% : 0
Beta : 2% : 0
Gamma : 5% : 0
Delta :5% : 0
Epsilon : 5% : 0
Zeta : 80% : 90%
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So... om sonething that should be mastered, I got 3 Passing, and 3 omega's...

and on the perfected.. I got all passing and 2 omegas.

Conclusion from experiment : Mastered is capable of having more omega's, but also of failing 14 times out of 20.
IMHO:
Mastered : Perfected
Alpha : 1% : 0
Beta : 2% : 0
Gamma : 5% : 0
Delta :5% : 0
Epsilon : 5% : 0
Zeta : 80% : 90%
Omega : 2 : 10%

Can't really say your experiment is invalid. All experiments to be valid must have a control subject, as well as be done multiple times to develop an average.Although the roll was done multiple times. It wasn't done enough really or done by enough people. If I did it out of 20 I may have more omegas on perfected than mastered. Its just luck. Only real way we could determine it really is if everyone on the site just did what you did to determine an average. But then that would be pointless. Fact is man. The higher the rate of training you are the less chance you have of bodging the attack up. Mastered is still a level below perfected. The best description I can use would probably be in Judo . A dan grade is described as a master of all the basic techniques , however within the dan grade, the mastery. There is still higher levels. Room for improvement. This. Is perfection.

A master can still make mistakes. Just like a mastered technique can still fail. Its just less likely to than a lower level. As for whether or not a perfected technique can fail. I'm not sure.

Thats just my two cents on the matter.
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Not going be around much for the next few days. My mom is in the hospital so just ghost me in any rps where it is needed.

... as far is the rolling % things goes, Shin posted the rates back on H2H if you want to go hunt it down.
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Hope everything is ok and she gets out of the hospital safely and quickly!

Using my Kyro voice: "Godspeed."
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From how it sounds you're using the word mastered as if it were perfected. Instead think of mastered as 'not quite perfected.' Also, your stating anything under zeta is a fail which is incorrect. You may want to revisit what is passing and what is failing in terms of tech usage. Of course perfected is the only class where you have a 100% chance of getting it perfect every time.
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aѕceпxion wrote:
From how it sounds you're using the word mastered as if it were perfected. Instead think of mastered as 'not quite perfected.' Also, your stating anything under zeta is a fail which is incorrect. You may want to revisit what is passing and what is failing in terms of tech usage. Of course perfected is the only class where you have a 100% chance of getting it perfect every time.

< Pretty much what I said
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*Sips tea*
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I look at it like this. Ther are 5 levels of control. I can understand that a mastered will not always get 100% all of the time, but it should at least have a minimum of 50%.
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*sips tea. slowly. savoring the. succulent. flavors.*
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Ashurei wrote:
I look at it like this. Ther are 5 levels of control. I can understand that a mastered will not always get 100% all of the time, but it should at least have a minimum of 50%.

ok
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aѕceпxion wrote:
*Sips tea*

You forgot the milk old chap. * adds to his own and Kyros*
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PostSubject: Re: General Discussion / OOC / Archived   General Discussion / OOC / Archived - Page 11 EmptyMon Jul 11, 2011 4:02 am

I would just like to point out that I spent two hours updating for you people. It's because I love you= not because I am driven purely by hate to end this cruel existence of a fictional character, yet I cannot bring myself to allow anyone else to end her- so I must end the world instead.

No, definitely not that.

Also- I wasn't expecting to reach SL Level 25 as quickly as I have. I'm hoping there isn't a cap on this sort of thing >_>; I shall weep once I max out then. Either that or sell my body to Shin so I can get more levels. If not my body- then... uh... Well, I suppose he already owns my soul with the sheer amount of time I spend on this site >_>;

Also, edited my character information on the Wikia. Thank you, Iskra, for putting up all of the beginnings of the bios for us- I wasn't sure how to go about doing that on my own >_>; Or Shin. Pretty sure it was Iskra though...
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PostSubject: Re: General Discussion / OOC / Archived   General Discussion / OOC / Archived - Page 11 EmptyMon Jul 11, 2011 2:56 pm

If anyone want a TB made or something graphic related, you can send me the pics and other things in a PM.

Have some few hours more to spend this week, but due to dial up net being so unreliable, i wont begin to RP until the 30th og july, so what i'll do is that i'll spend a good amount of hours making your TBs and post them up when i get the chance ^^
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PostSubject: Re: General Discussion / OOC / Archived   General Discussion / OOC / Archived - Page 11 EmptyMon Jul 11, 2011 4:53 pm

Soothesayer wrote:
Either that or sell my body to Shin so I can get more levels. If not my body- then... uh... Well, I suppose he already owns my soul with the sheer amount of time I spend on this site >_>;

Knowing Shin, your body will probably be enough; Kaz is the one that takes souls.

Crumpets?
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